That's why it sickens me so much when someone who is otherwise healthy, but has a small problem come up, doesn't address it. Doesn't address that their body needs maintenance like their car. That their body is the only one they get. That there are things that doctors can't miraculously fix. But they can prevent a problem if you give them the chance.
I was chatting with a friend last night, and the conversation was disheartening. After knowing me so long and hearing about the hell of being sick, I thought something would have stuck. Clearly I was wrong.
friend 10:39 pm
I need to go put some stuff out on the curb for a pick up tomorrow
Be back shortly
I need to go put some stuff out on the curb for a pick up tomorrow
Be back shortly
me 10:39 pm
party hard
party hard
friend is available 11:00 pm
friend 11:01 pm
Someone tell my heart it doesn't have to hurt just because I'm carrying loads of stuff. : p
Someone tell my heart it doesn't have to hurt just because I'm carrying loads of stuff. : p
me 11:02 pm
:-(
that's not good.
:-(
that's not good.
friend 11:02 pm
Nope. It quit when I quit
But it was not nice
Nope. It quit when I quit
But it was not nice
me
11:02 pm
have you had chest pain before?
have you had chest pain before?
friend 11:03 pm
Yeah. It's fairly common for me. If I lay on the wrong side. It felt just like that
Yeah. It's fairly common for me. If I lay on the wrong side. It felt just like that
me 11:03 pm
um, not good
um, not good
friend 11:04 pm
Not so much
Not so much
me
11:04 pm
ever mention it to a doctor?
ever mention it to a doctor?
friend 11:04 pm
I think I mentioned to that one doc.
I think I mentioned to that one doc.
me 11:04 pm
and...?
and...?
friend 11:04 pm
"Come back after you've had sex."
"Come back after you've had sex."
me 11:05 pm
what does that have to do with anything?!?!?!
what does that have to do with anything?!?!?!
me 11:06 pm
it's your heart! if you're having chest pain, you're having chest pain.
it's your heart! if you're having chest pain, you're having chest pain.
friend 11:06 pm
I told you about this doc. I had 2-3 problems, she blew past them and told me to come back after I'd had sex. Like, she'll do a female physical after that, but until then whatev
I told you about this doc. I had 2-3 problems, she blew past them and told me to come back after I'd had sex. Like, she'll do a female physical after that, but until then whatev
me 11:07 pm
ugh. yeah, see another doc.
chest pain isnt normal. ever.
ugh. yeah, see another doc.
chest pain isnt normal. ever.
friend
11:08 pm
It matches my personality. :P
It matches my personality. :P
me 11:09 pm
for real, no joking around with something like that. if i had some kind of warning about stuff that was going to go haywire in my heart, i would have loved the chance to investigate sooner. because you only get one heart....and if that goes bad, doesn't matter what shape everything else is in
for real, no joking around with something like that. if i had some kind of warning about stuff that was going to go haywire in my heart, i would have loved the chance to investigate sooner. because you only get one heart....and if that goes bad, doesn't matter what shape everything else is in
friend
11:10 pm
Yeah
Yeah
me 11:12 pm
seriously, just don't take your health for granted. it's so much cheaper and easier to deal with preventitive care than deal with a problem later
seriously, just don't take your health for granted. it's so much cheaper and easier to deal with preventitive care than deal with a problem later
friend
11:12 pm
Maybe she figured because it usually just happens when I lay on one side for too long (or lean to one side carrying stuff) that it was a movement thing, not a heart thing. idk
But I should probably see what other docs they have there
Maybe she figured because it usually just happens when I lay on one side for too long (or lean to one side carrying stuff) that it was a movement thing, not a heart thing. idk
But I should probably see what other docs they have there
me 11:13 pm
did she bother doing any tests to confirm that? because that doesn't sound like good health care at all...i'd really see another doc if i were you
did she bother doing any tests to confirm that? because that doesn't sound like good health care at all...i'd really see another doc if i were you
friend
11:14 pm
No, no tests. She spent five minutes with me
No, no tests. She spent five minutes with me
me 11:15 pm
please please please see another doctor
it is just not worth the potential problems later
please please please see another doctor
it is just not worth the potential problems later
friend
11:16 pm
This is true.
This is true.
me 11:19 pm
i know i sound like a nag...but consider the situation i'm in....i was thinking earlier how much i'd be willing to give to get back a sense of normalcy that didn't revolve around health problems and especially he heart issues of the last year (last 4 years, but it got worse this year)
if you have the chance to fix it, take it
i know i sound like a nag...but consider the situation i'm in....i was thinking earlier how much i'd be willing to give to get back a sense of normalcy that didn't revolve around health problems and especially he heart issues of the last year (last 4 years, but it got worse this year)
if you have the chance to fix it, take it
friend
11:19 pm
No, I know you're not just saying this for the heck of it or whatnot. You're our resident medical expert for more than one reason. ;)
No, I know you're not just saying this for the heck of it or whatnot. You're our resident medical expert for more than one reason. ;)
me 11:19 pm
whether i like it or not
whether i like it or not
friend
11:19 pm
Your advice is valued and appreicated
Your advice is valued and appreicated
me 11:22 pm
thanks
i just wish people could spend a day in my shoes (or anybody with a chronic problem like this)....there's no reason to be a worry wart or see the doctor for every scratch and bruise, but sometimes, it's just really important to be proactive
thanks
i just wish people could spend a day in my shoes (or anybody with a chronic problem like this)....there's no reason to be a worry wart or see the doctor for every scratch and bruise, but sometimes, it's just really important to be proactive
friend
11:23 pm
That's true.
That's true.
friend
11:37 pm
Sheldon (TBBT) is so funny
Sheldon (TBBT) is so funny
me 11:38 pm
haha yep! we got the rerun of The Adhesive Duck Deficiency tonight :-D
haha yep! we got the rerun of The Adhesive Duck Deficiency tonight :-D
friend
11:38 pm
I am watching it now.
The slip in the tub, I presume?
I am watching it now.
The slip in the tub, I presume?
me 11:38 pm
yes :-)
yes :-)
friend
11:38 pm
And the grannies cookies
And the grannies cookies
me 11:38 pm
one of my favorites...i love the giggle factor of penny and sheldon ever interacting
one of my favorites...i love the giggle factor of penny and sheldon ever interacting
friend
11:39 pm
Yes. And her fashion worries
Yes. And her fashion worries
me11:41 pm
lol hey, regardless of how crappy i feel, i usually make an effort to look like i didn't just roll out of my laundry basket before i go to the hospital
lol hey, regardless of how crappy i feel, i usually make an effort to look like i didn't just roll out of my laundry basket before i go to the hospital
friend
11:41 pm
It's just funny in the show
It's just funny in the show
me 11:41 pm
then again, usually my feeling crappy is at least mentally changed by looking like i tried
then again, usually my feeling crappy is at least mentally changed by looking like i tried
friend
11:47 pm
Yeah
Yeah
friend
11:58 pm
I tried to get an iTunes uk account yesterday
I tried to get an iTunes uk account yesterday
me 11:59 pm
how'd that work out for ya :-P
how'd that work out for ya :-P
friend
12:00 am
Well, y'have to have a payment option (of the UK variety) for it to work, so I tried to gift a iTunes UK card to my UK yahoo email. But one has to speak to the international gifting department to gift one thusly.
They're open midnight - 11 a.m.
So if I want to do this, I have to call some time
Well, y'have to have a payment option (of the UK variety) for it to work, so I tried to gift a iTunes UK card to my UK yahoo email. But one has to speak to the international gifting department to gift one thusly.
They're open midnight - 11 a.m.
So if I want to do this, I have to call some time
me 12:01 am
why do you have a UK yahoo email? and is this show worth so much trouble to try to get it just 6 months early?
lol
why do you have a UK yahoo email? and is this show worth so much trouble to try to get it just 6 months early?
lol
friend
12:02 am
Because I wanted a UK iTunes account
So I need a UK login
I wanted to buy Downton Abbey, S3
Which is airing in the UK and won't air here until January
Because I wanted a UK iTunes account
So I need a UK login
I wanted to buy Downton Abbey, S3
Which is airing in the UK and won't air here until January
me 12:04 am
yeah i remember you telling me that it was airing there, but still....
a few more months and you can just watch it :-P
yeah i remember you telling me that it was airing there, but still....
a few more months and you can just watch it :-P
friend
12:04 am
You don't understand the situation. a) this is DOWNTON FREAKIN' ABBEY... :D and b) Tumblr is posting gifs
If I wait 4 months, there will be no surprises.
They'll have a long lost sister married off and I'll know the names of all her future kids before I see it. :p (not an actual plotline that I know of)
You don't understand the situation. a) this is DOWNTON FREAKIN' ABBEY... :D and b) Tumblr is posting gifs
If I wait 4 months, there will be no surprises.
They'll have a long lost sister married off and I'll know the names of all her future kids before I see it. :p (not an actual plotline that I know of)
me 12:11 am
Okay, I might be really pissing you off when i say this, and please don't get me wrong, that's not my goal here, but i get that it's a possible side effect. Why can you put so much passion into a tv show and try moving heaven and earth to get it now, but seemed to not have any drive or passion toward chest pain? I mean, the same amount of work online could find you a few competent doctors in your area and let you research them to see what their patients have to say about them, and then make an appointment to see one.
Okay, I might be really pissing you off when i say this, and please don't get me wrong, that's not my goal here, but i get that it's a possible side effect. Why can you put so much passion into a tv show and try moving heaven and earth to get it now, but seemed to not have any drive or passion toward chest pain? I mean, the same amount of work online could find you a few competent doctors in your area and let you research them to see what their patients have to say about them, and then make an appointment to see one.
friend
12:11 am
lol
lol
me 12:12 am
I just...believe me, I love fandom and all that (and it gets me through the day sometimes when i can't even manage to hold a book in front of my face), but....i don't see how that can have so much importance compared to your health
I just...believe me, I love fandom and all that (and it gets me through the day sometimes when i can't even manage to hold a book in front of my face), but....i don't see how that can have so much importance compared to your health
friend
12:13 am
a) doctors cost more money b) I don't believe anything's seriously wrong, since it's been going on for years. It happens every few months, when I move wrong. People act consistent with their beliefs, regardless of the veracity thereof. I believe the show will be more fun if I watch it now. I don't feel greatly at risk with the pain in my chest/ribs
a) doctors cost more money b) I don't believe anything's seriously wrong, since it's been going on for years. It happens every few months, when I move wrong. People act consistent with their beliefs, regardless of the veracity thereof. I believe the show will be more fun if I watch it now. I don't feel greatly at risk with the pain in my chest/ribs
friend
12:15 am
Mostly the money
Mostly the money
me 12:18 am
i realize hindsight tends to be 20/20 and we're a civilization that lives in today, but the cost of preventative care is ALWAYS cheaper than fixing a problem.
i realize hindsight tends to be 20/20 and we're a civilization that lives in today, but the cost of preventative care is ALWAYS cheaper than fixing a problem.
me 12:20 am
to see a family practice doc and specialist after that to get tests done would cost under $1000 out of pocket with no insurance. The cost of my last two minimally invasive surgeries were over $14k each. The cost of my last 3 day/2 night hospitalization was about the same.
And with the affordable care act, a general practitioner visit is free once a year.
to see a family practice doc and specialist after that to get tests done would cost under $1000 out of pocket with no insurance. The cost of my last two minimally invasive surgeries were over $14k each. The cost of my last 3 day/2 night hospitalization was about the same.
And with the affordable care act, a general practitioner visit is free once a year.
friend
12:23 am
This is true.
This is true.
me 12:26 am
Or think about what you would do if the car started making a funky noise or smoking. Would you just wait it out and see if it hung in there, or would you have someone take a peek under the hood to make sure that at the very least, there weren't major issues, at least until you could get it to a mechanic next month?
Or think about what you would do if the car started making a funky noise or smoking. Would you just wait it out and see if it hung in there, or would you have someone take a peek under the hood to make sure that at the very least, there weren't major issues, at least until you could get it to a mechanic next month?
friend
12:27 am
I would peak. Thus the trip to the doc. Who dismissed it. And I mentioned it to you once before and you offered alternate reasonable explanations and so I gave it little more thought
I can do strenuous exercise without pain, making me think it's just a matter of moving wrong
I would peak. Thus the trip to the doc. Who dismissed it. And I mentioned it to you once before and you offered alternate reasonable explanations and so I gave it little more thought
I can do strenuous exercise without pain, making me think it's just a matter of moving wrong
me 12:31 am
okay, but think of that doc as a mechanic who can't keep the rain from falling into his shop, let alone fix a car. The title doesn't necessarily mean anything if they're not willing to put in some work. And I am sorry that I don't remember talking about it before, and while I like to be able to offer a few explanations for things that happen in the human body, it doesn't mean the easiest one is right. And if we're having this conversation for a second time (again, sorry. I believe you, I just don't remember....crappy side effect of too many meds), it means it's gone on for a while, which is another good indicator that it needs to be checked out.
okay, but think of that doc as a mechanic who can't keep the rain from falling into his shop, let alone fix a car. The title doesn't necessarily mean anything if they're not willing to put in some work. And I am sorry that I don't remember talking about it before, and while I like to be able to offer a few explanations for things that happen in the human body, it doesn't mean the easiest one is right. And if we're having this conversation for a second time (again, sorry. I believe you, I just don't remember....crappy side effect of too many meds), it means it's gone on for a while, which is another good indicator that it needs to be checked out.
friend
12:32 am
(Lol. I know you and your meds)
(Lol. I know you and your meds)
me 12:33 am
Before I had surgery earlier this year, I had SVT for about 4 years. And I could still work, exercise, drink alcohol, eat junk food all without feeling it at all...it only happened sometimes. Until it was happening a lot. Until I almost passed out at work once and had to be rushed to the ER. Until it was progressing to the point that it could have caused anything from a heart attack to death.
Before I had surgery earlier this year, I had SVT for about 4 years. And I could still work, exercise, drink alcohol, eat junk food all without feeling it at all...it only happened sometimes. Until it was happening a lot. Until I almost passed out at work once and had to be rushed to the ER. Until it was progressing to the point that it could have caused anything from a heart attack to death.
friend
12:36 am
I will try to remember to see what the options are within our group
I will try to remember to see what the options are within our group
me 12:41 am
A sore joint for a year, while not exactly healthy to the rest of the body, could be brushed off as something that was more inconsequential and could wait. Chest pain means there's something wrong in/on/around/near your much more vital parts....and those aren't parts that can be fixed or replaced. I mean, seriously, I've had heart surgery twice in my life and am now looking at the possibility of more surgery, or a pacemaker, or worse, being stuck with no solutions and having to live with it the rest of my life. You better believe me when I say I'm doing whatever I can to try to get it under control now while I have a better chance of it. There is nothing in the world right now that's worth the money more than that (and even worse, worth other people's money...as I can't work now and can't make my own money). Even if you just look up a primary physician who seems more attentive and does an EKG or CT scan, that would be better than nothing.
A sore joint for a year, while not exactly healthy to the rest of the body, could be brushed off as something that was more inconsequential and could wait. Chest pain means there's something wrong in/on/around/near your much more vital parts....and those aren't parts that can be fixed or replaced. I mean, seriously, I've had heart surgery twice in my life and am now looking at the possibility of more surgery, or a pacemaker, or worse, being stuck with no solutions and having to live with it the rest of my life. You better believe me when I say I'm doing whatever I can to try to get it under control now while I have a better chance of it. There is nothing in the world right now that's worth the money more than that (and even worse, worth other people's money...as I can't work now and can't make my own money). Even if you just look up a primary physician who seems more attentive and does an EKG or CT scan, that would be better than nothing.
friend
12:42 am
That seems like a wise plan
That seems like a wise plan
me 12:43 am
Anywho, I'm gonna go to bed. I'm in pain and should have gone a while ago. I don't need to be sitting here anymore. I'll talk to you tomorrow night.
Anywho, I'm gonna go to bed. I'm in pain and should have gone a while ago. I don't need to be sitting here anymore. I'll talk to you tomorrow night.
friend
12:43 am
::hugs:: Feel better soon
And thank you for caring
Love ya!
::hugs:: Feel better soon
And thank you for caring
Love ya!
me 12:43 am
Love you too. Night.
Love you too. Night.
friend
12:43 am
G'night
G'night
